i personally respect havok to a great extent because he has done alot for australian wrestling but i do understand why fans dont get into his matches... but my conclusion to that is that epw fans dont have a great understanding of the things that havok has done in his pro wrestling career because he isnt a full time epw wrestler and (exluding this year) is only seen once or twice a year therefore they dont have much to base their opinion on... probably could of been worded better...

I could be wrong on this but i think maybe due to the fact that he's a big guy from interstate it could really work against him. Interstate wrestlers who work as heel can always get easy cheap heel heat with state insults etc, yet for them to be face it would be alot harder to get fans behind them especially as they wouldnt be at every show. Also the fact that he is a bigger guy, which means his movset is more power moves and his style is slower. Unfortunately for him alot of the fans at EPW are more markish who enjoy highspots and fancy moves. I could be wrong but that would be my opinion.

I think people just forget how dominating he can be. He's a powerhouse, he's never gonna do the high aerial spots. EPW fans seem to mark out more for the high fliers rather than the traditional wrestlers. FN Carnage is another who unfortunatly falls into this group, as does Azazal. These guys are awesome wrestlers, but different things appeal to different types of crowds. Lets have a look at the *tale of the tape* cough cough Havok won the Invitational Trophy over Shane Haste at RA05 in possibly the match of the night Havok won the belt of Mikey at Stand And Deliver - Jag couldnt beat Mikey at ReAwakening 05 when the belt was on the line. He lost the belt to Jimmy Payne at Evolution.... in not the cleanest of circumstances He DESTROYED Davis Storm at Boiling Point He lost to Jag at RA 06 when both men were knocked unconcious and Jag luckily fell on top of Havok for the cover.... both men were unconcious Come to think of it.... if he found himself a tag partner, like Azazal or FN Carnage.... maybe, just maybe Storm and Jag would have to be a little worried. Why am i forefathers fan? hmm i got a lot of self evaluation to do over the next few months. Havok is highly underestimated these days. Back a few years he was feared by all the Perth wrestlers and fans, but since becoming a fan favourite he seems to have lost a bit of the intimidating factor he once had. FN Carnage suffered it for a little while before his feud with Azazal last year and Azazal seems to be suffering it a little nowdays, yet we all think they're awesome wrestlers. Having said that, im sure guys AZ could beat Havok next year.... not!!! But hey... i'd love to see AZ prove us wrong

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hahaha i'd love to see AZ beat havok he should just go back to being a big heel he's no good at being face azazal and carnage are both great wrestlers, i always cheer for azazal, but he's at his best destroying rookies! you can separate the fans with who actually like wrestling and who likes flips and spins, and neither really get behind havok, go figure